Absurdism and Fatalism, 1 of 2

	Duration: 438 seconds Upload Time: 07-05-02 08:52:41 User: azrienoch :::: Favorites
Description: First video of two. I've been carrying on a private conversation about the merits of absurdism against outright fatalism, and thought a video might be most beneficial.
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theinquisitor ::: Favorites Now that you've put it like that, I can see that there is no necessary link between living and meaning. Simple animals live and they don't have meaning, well at least probably not. Maybe. I don't know. I can't understand how anything is determinable. 07-05-02 16:13:52 _____________________________________________________
jasonhoblin ::: Favorites indubitably. 07-05-02 23:18:54 _____________________________________________________
updumb ::: Favorites you interchange shoulds and shouldn'ts with cans and can'ts without explaining what obligation has to do with any of this. we can kill ourselves, kill others, mope, shit on the floor, clean it up or not, and smoke camel fur. should we? how do you answer that without referencing an agenda 07-05-05 01:23:10 _____________________________________________________
Chocoboskickyourass ::: Favorites Hmm' okay. Lets see. What is the purpose of determining if you have a purpose >_>. What is the purpose of determining purpose. Okay. The reason people live is for new experiences. I think that's pretty much it. All they want is to become more aware. When people kill themselves, its probably because they've given up on anything new. Mannnn. Sad I guess. I'm not good with vocabulary and I don't know how to back that up but I wonder if I'm wrong at all. 07-05-05 17:13:26 _____________________________________________________
popebenadict16 ::: Favorites errrr what 07-05-07 12:03:23 _____________________________________________________
shibumi81 ::: Favorites lol 07-05-07 19:57:39 _____________________________________________________
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shibumi81 ::: Favorites I thought Camus would say something like you don't have a purpose and therefore you must create your own - like most of the existentialist-labelled philosophers 07-05-07 20:02:06 _____________________________________________________
azrienoch ::: Favorites I don't think he was that similar to the existentialists. I think he'd say that it's our lot to create meaning (we do it even in the fatalistic rejection of meaning), so in order to rebel against the absurd, we have to find something to keep us busy. Qua: it's quantity, not quality. 07-05-07 23:50:42 _____________________________________________________
shibumi81 ::: Favorites Right, I agree.. But let me ask you something. I find it almost impossible to label anyone but Sartre in the existentialist geanre. Why?? because he was the only one who excepted the name. So who would you put under this classification of philosophy? Does no one fit the profile? 07-05-08 00:53:30 _____________________________________________________
azrienoch ::: Favorites Well, you have people like Simone de Beauvoir and others that follow Sartre that are Existentialists in the way you mean. There is a difference between Existentialism and existential philosophy, and people like Camus, Kierkegaard, and Nietzsche are most definitely existential philosophers. But Existentialists, no. 07-05-08 04:04:26 _____________________________________________________