Text and Context

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Description: An essay concerning... well, everything.
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ScientificDiscussion ::: Favorites 6) I think you use to many philosophers and that the uses is contradicting. -- Think you need to choose which philosopher you go with, otherwise it is a paradox. For instance Wittgenstein is not someone who can easily be used to argue in favour of deconstruction which I guess is what you´re trying to do when speaking of pointing arrows. 07-04-29 06:19:45 _____________________________________________________
ScientificDiscussion ::: Favorites But this analogy doesn't really hold up. A sign is not as much an arrow, but simply an arbitrary to more arbitraries... (Derrida) Please remember... I like you:) 07-04-29 06:20:32 _____________________________________________________
azrienoch ::: Favorites Thanks, ScientificDiscussion. I'm uploading a video response to these right now. 07-04-29 18:46:45 _____________________________________________________
JohnnyCreepy ::: Favorites Sarrasine 07-04-30 12:53:45 _____________________________________________________
zorio ::: Favorites While I am apt to agree that all communicative and shared language is really arbitrary, and simply points to additional words, I'm afraid I have to disagree on something in this video. Ultimately, language IS pointing to something outside of itself, and the tragedy is that it never achieves such a lofty goal in it's groping for more than just more language. I would say that beyond language lie some important things. 07-05-05 02:36:48 _____________________________________________________
zorio ::: Favorites 1) The thingness/thisness of the thing, call it Being, or haecceitas, or what have you, there is something ultimately never communicated. 07-05-05 02:37:34 _____________________________________________________
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zorio ::: Favorites 2) Subjective/Personal experience and the Symbol. Here I'm speaking of what many would call the unconscious, some would call ideology, it could even be defined as something akin to a disposition. It is the background behind you while you speak. Picture yourself in front of a green screen, giving a presentation or a speech in front of the screen, while others are watching you on a television set which also includes a background behind you. 07-05-05 02:39:25 _____________________________________________________
zorio ::: Favorites Others can see this background, but whenever you turn around you see only green. No matter their explanation of the background behind you, you never grasp it, you simply can't. All texts are produced within a context, but this context exists at many levels, some of which are observable and demonstrable, while others are beyond our explanation, even if they are experienced. 07-05-05 02:40:01 _____________________________________________________
zorio ::: Favorites 3) Following both of these lines of thought, I would say there are many meaningful experiences which remain incommunicable. The experiences of mystics come to mind, as do those of a madman. These experiences are outside of communicable language. I would say that the symbols and experiences of such people, while being akin to the language of every day discourse, are fundamentally different in that they cannot ever be communicated, and any attempt to do so does violence to the experience. 07-05-05 02:44:46 _____________________________________________________
zorio ::: Favorites The experience of a saint cannot be grasped by others, or even the saint themselves, to do so reduces the experience to the level of common language and any and all meaning is then destroyed. 07-05-05 02:45:02 _____________________________________________________